P7 EU Season 1 Week 4 - Viaduct

barthiz - Shi no shonin

 05/15/2018 07:53 PM CEST

http://eu.rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198009387881
Default merc.

Fire - SENSA7ION

 05/15/2018 08:15 PM CEST

19:14 - Fire: can we use spanns
19:15 - barthiz: ye
19:15 - Fire: http://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561197998349793

barthiz Auto Generated - Shi no shonin

 05/15/2018 08:55 PM CEST

Match score submitted. Final score
Shi no shonin: 0
SENSA7ION:3

sigafoo Admin

 05/16/2018 08:29 PM CEST

The match has been forfeited in favor of Shi no shonin. The remaining 1.4 points can still be won. Teams can reschedule the match prior to the end of the regular season and play for them.

sigafoo Admin

 05/16/2018 08:56 PM CEST

Shi, contacted me after it was around 16-18 minutes after the start time. Asking me what options they have because SENSA7ION was not started yet and there was no clear indication that the match would start soon.

In accordance with the rules: http://eu.rgl.gg/Public/About/Rules.aspx#match-forfeits
"To request for a forfeit, request in game chat by requesting the other team to either ready up or forfeit. The other team then has 60 seconds to ready up. "

You can view the chat logs here: http://logs.tf/2025780
Shi warns them that they plan to get an Admin due to the lack of progress/starting from Sensa7ion and gave them the one minute warning. The game did not start up until about 4-5 minutes after this. About 24-25 minutes after the start time.

The match was played in full, Sensa7ion won 4-0.

sigafoo Admin

 05/16/2018 08:56 PM CEST

I'm honestly a bit torn on this, as everything happened very close together. And was on the fence about issuing full points to Sensa, though with penalties would be issued at them due to the late start time. As the match was played in full.

However given that it was such a late start, we need to draw the line in sand somewhere. It's the responsibility of each team to show up on time and with good spirit. Sensa7ion did not do this and technically shi is within their right to request the forfeit.

sigafoo Admin

 05/16/2018 08:57 PM CEST

With this in mind, I'm going to be updating the rules soon. To make it so that when a team is requesting a forced ready up from the other team, the other team will fully understand their options and consequences to their actions or lack thereof. We will also be slightly increasing the time a team has to ready up.

As this situation was a bit too on the fence for my comfort and I don't think the rules adequately handled this situation.

This is the final decision for this match. If you have any questions you can talk to me directly over discord.

sigafoo Admin

 05/20/2018 02:49 AM CEST

After having talked to all parties in more detail and having laid out options of how to resolve this strange edge case on our rules. We've decided to only issue partial points to the Shi for the forfeit. The match was played in full on fairground, but Sensa7ion didn't ready up fast enough technically.

Essentially we're giving a round's worth of points as if Sensa7ion had to play 6v7 in the first round if they readied up.

Fire - SENSA7ION

 06/05/2018 11:24 PM CEST

We did ready up in the first round since our sniper joined pretty soon after we readied up, although most of that round was played 7v7.